I agree with Roz.
Matty isn't the most calm and collected person. And he REALLY hates Ariel because of Cameo. So I can't really seeing him saying "Calm down, Matthew. Get your revenge later" No. He'll go for the throat.
When Ariel and Matty meet up, anything could happen!
KSL
Chances are, they might have met up already, seeing as they were both on the ship together and both went to TLOTRQ. Who knows?
Hmmmmm.Maybe to destroy ariel he will turn on the machines.
I think that Rushton could be the destroyer....any thoughts? [img]http://s2.images.proboards.com/huh.gif" alt="???" border="0"/>
Just though I should clarify that last point a little – he’s a "he", as described, he’s the opposite to Elspeth in having no real Talent, and he’s her equal because they're together…does any on this make sense or am I just clutching at straws?? I’ve no real proof or anything – to be honest the thoughts just popped into my head, so I’d be glad to know what people think
We have dicussed this but i wasn't one of the big supporters but wait they'll come around.
Whoops - oh yeah, just read it all...should've probably done that before I posted!! Hmmm...it's all a great puzzle. In a way I don't really want to find out! (But hopefully we will in October because Amazon.co.uk is "advertising"/showing it as being out in Oct! Hazaa!)
ahhh...i don't want it to be Mattie, but...
you guys are right. He HATES Ariel!! With a passion! And if Ariel were to threaten anyone Matthew loved and he was near i think there'd be quite a fight.
If Ariel is not the destroyer then he's probably not really part of the quest. I still think he is but if he's not then he's not, let it go and don't make up new roles so he sort of is but isn't. He can still do nasty things without having an official role.
Also I think that it doesn't have to be Ariel stalking her in her dreams just someone who knows she fears Ariel the only person I could think of is Domick as he has seen Ariel as an adult and knows how any misfit would fear him if they had met him when he had power at obernewtyn.
Hey!
That's an interesting thought
Except that Domick ISN'T EVIL!!! He's not! He's not!
*bursts into tears and blocks ears*
KSL
No I think he is just really lost in his mind.
roz how do you think dyffad will be involved?
Daffyd's making a big effort to go the TLORQ to find Gilaine.
Of course Matthew is on TLORQ.
I just have a feeling they'll meet up. Daffyd always seems to be in the right place at the right time.
Maybe it's also to justify the fact that I think Daffyd is a really good candidate to be the destroyer!
so your saying he'll show up at the right time once more to set the machines off? Hmm possible.
maybe matthew and daffyd meet up in the LOTRQ and, cos IC likes twists, they might help each other to destroy ariel, but in the end, one of them (possibly matthew) ends up doing want ariel wants (the weapon machines).
OK, another bid to convince a few more of you that it's Matty. Some of you may have read this already on the theories site. I challenge any not thinking that it's Matty to write a similar scenario on how they think Elf will discover who the Destroyer is, and what she really has to do!
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I felt a probe frantically trying to make contact with me, and was immediately cautious. None in the Red Queens land could know who I was. Yet this probe had sought me as though it knew me.
I recognised the signature with a start and tried to remain externally passive.
Matthew. He was alive.
I went cold.
'ElspethElf?'
Matthew sounded relieved, but there was an underlying panic behind the shock of his recognising me inamongst all the other minds.
'What is it?' I farsaught quickly.
'They're takin' me to th' Entina. It's a -'
'I know what it is,' I cut him off. Ariel was doing to Matthew what his mentor Alexi had done to Selmar and Cameo, and later tried on me. I had lost them, and I could not loose Matthew to the same evil.
'Quickly, let me use your eyes,' but I couldn't miss this chance. The whole time I'd been here I had been at a loss as to how I would gain access to the Sentinal.
'All right, but Elspeth, ye mun do somthin', quick,' before I could take in the message properly, Matthew grew passive, and I opened my eyes.
Through the mist that came with use of the talent, I could make out an entrance, a doorway to something heavily guarded. More heavily guarded than anyone realised, I thought wryly. He was already there! Ariel, the cowardly snake, was not in my/Matthew's line of sight.
'They said there was a beast in here,' he sent faintly.
'There is,' I replied.
'Elspeth ye mun get out of here. They want me to try open th' doors with my Talent, but I don't know how an' all th' others have died trying. I'm ginna try use my Talent but if something goes awry an' ye dinney leave my mind, ye'll be..'
Matthew trailed off and with a sickly jerk, I realised that I had to make a deadly decision. I could almost hear Atthis' mental nod.
No, not Matthew.
The quest that had directed me blindly my entire life became clear to me now. I knew the password to gain entry to the Sentinal. I had the keys. I could tell Matthew how to enter, and he would be saved, but in doing so, I would be unleashing the Great White on the Land again. I had vowed to never let that happen.
Was I to let Matthew die, when I could save him? And what if I didn't aid him, and he died? Would it stop Ariel from using another Talented Misfit to open it?
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The only problem I have with that scenario Min is that it will mean Matty dying! And I don't want that! But it sounds like a pretty good scenario to me.
That dream that Elf keeps having of the tunnel with the dripping water etc... presumably that's the entrance to the Entina, right?
I mentioned it on another thread, but my little guess is that Matty will in fact end up killing Ariel through the same killing power that Elf has.
So I suppose if we put that into your scenario, Elf wouldn't have to let Matty die coz he could save himself and kill Ariel instead???
You can continue the scenario that way if you want, Rox, I'd love to read it [img]http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif" alt=";D" border="0"/>
I'm sure I'll get some backlash for this one, but my personal pick for the destroyer is Dameon. I haven't read the books in quite a while but when Isobelle said that it was someone we wouldn't expect I remembered how I'd been getting a bad feeling about Dameon in TKP - he started creeping me out because it was like he was trying to crack onto Elspeth while Rushton was missing. Maybe since he is in love with Elspeth it will drive him to despair and destruction?? I used to like Dameon but after TKP I don't anymore - there's something not right.
Plus, I don't believe it could be Matthew or Rushton. And Ariel is the obvious choice. So unless Isobelle is trying to lead us down the garden path.... [img]http://s2.images.proboards.com/smiley.gif" alt=":)" border="0"/>
No backlash for the suggestion that Dameon is the Destroyer. He's my second choice!
BUT MUCH BACKLASH FOR SUGGESTING HE WOULD HONE IN ON RUSHTON'S TERRITORY!
Dameon is a GOOD guy! He would NEVER do such a thing. That's more of a Rushton thing! Min, back me up! Damo may be the Destroyer, but he's not a bad person!!!
ARGH!
KSL
Mystic Ward
19 years ago
Mystic Ward
Rebel
damo isnt a bad person.
i also thought that he was the destroyer, thus the thread "sob Session", but i dont think he knows what hes doing. i think ariel could be controling him cos hes close to elspeth
My original choice for the Destroyer was Dameon as well, mainly because I was trying to think of someone really unpredictable. I figured Ariel and Rushton were too obvious, and Matthew and Daffyd were question marks.
Dameon did get a bit creepy in TKP. Isobelle might have done that so we won't feel so 'betrayed' if he becomes a bad guy.
But now I've read all the other posts I just don't know!
2005 seems so far away!
Smoke
[The Beastspeaker]
Mystic Ward
19 years ago
Mystic Ward
Rebel
heyheyhey Smoke!!
i dont beleive ive seen you around here before [img]http://s2.images.proboards.com/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" border="0"/>
welcome to ober.net!!
anyways, i dont know what to think anymore, i came in with strong desisions of who the destroyer was and who salamander was, but now all im left with is half a packet of twisties [img]http://s2.images.proboards.com/sad.gif" alt=":(" border="0"/>
P.S im insane, its even stamped on my hand
Does anybody think it might be Jakoby? She could be described as Elspeth's equal - isn't she second in command, if you like, of the Sadorians as Elspeth is of the Misfits?