19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:11pm
Is it just me... Or does it seem that Solen is even MORE s*xier as the mysterious and secretive figure of the Shadowman?!?
Is that possible... Solen evne more attractive then he already is?!
:P
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:12pm
oooo, that's a tough one.................the idea of him being the mysterious Shadowman definately does sound sexy. :kiss:
cum on, Solen was ALWAYS extremely HOT!!!!!!!!!!! But I agree, the Shadowman label would up his status .... I think Glynn is SOOOO lucky 2 have a guy like him!!!
ps. All hail the SOlen-4-Shadowman bandwagon!!!
This is a debate for another thread, so I will limit my comments to this.
*coughbleydbcough*
KSL
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:13pm
No... on another matter, I was thinking about the Legendsong series and somebody said something about Solens presence everywhere being a conincidence...
Maybe it is just fate throughout the book but I have felt like so much of the story has been a matter or blantent coincidence... Like Glynna going to the Draka and trying to sell her darklin but to get her out of inforced slavery she miraculously become involved with the fienna and there have been many things that have gone down with everybody that have been like - Right place, right time...
Don't get me wrong... I LOVE the books to death... But I'm am taking by how much things seem to fall into place... They are always involved with the most influencial people!
:P
But that's the way it was woven by the song...
(Must let you read my new story when I'm done with it, Glynnavyre. I think it would interest you.)
KSL
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:14pm
Is it about me?!?
I'm interested with myself! hahahaha... ;)
I'd love to read your new work... You can email it to me if you want!
:P
p.s. I'm a sucker for romance... I've even read a mills and boon before! HA!
I'm a sucker 2 Glynna-vyre! Heh, I have always been sucked in ...
And that was meee who said about the coincidences!!!
Kayt -- What is with the *coughbleydcough* thing?
I just have to say a few things. One is the I think that the signs of the unvraveller discribe both Glynn and Ember chapter 24 of Darksong
Half-blind yet seeing all,
who is marked by visioning yet without Darkfall mark
who lives, yet sings the deathsong
who is born, yet not of the song of making
who is gifted from the great waters
who is crowned in bright flames...
I just see a resmeble to each of them in this. it might be just me.
No, I saw it too Shadow Outcast.
Half-blind yet seeing all,
who is marked by visioning yet without Darkfall mark
who lives, yet sings the deathsong
That could be Ember.
who is born, yet not of the song of making
who is gifted from the great waters
These two lines are kind unspecific, as they could be refering to both Ember and Glynn.
who is crowned in bright flames...
Now, this on could be Ember if it were taken to mean her hair colour. But it could also be Glynn. If you think about it, 'bright flames' could be her strong, warrior-like spirit.
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:19pm
wooo wooooo wooooo this thread has taken off...ok well ive quickly read thru what you all have written and i do see your points. all very valid! and i soooooo need to re-read them again :P anyway i am goin to ask a - doesnt that all seem to obvious for IC?! its like its spelt out! and there is a few points i want to suggest:
if glynna can hear the song then she cant be the soulsaver or unraveller. for those 2 are connected together (it has been assumed that they are the same person and others say they are sepperate, but connected to the same task since landors soul is under chaos spirit control) and it is said (as a condition) that no-one of the song (which to me is made or guilded by it) can fee/help/complete the task. so if she can hear the song is she not part of that world?!?! to me ember hears the song more - she is a musicain. glynna cant hear anythin but vibrations...how can a song the made life have vibrations?! *thinks* hmmm i might have stumbled on a thought there...nope lost it....anyway glynna has been told she is more important. and if (cant remember if i heard this or read it) the chaos spirit gets landors soul when the unraveller fails so he can pass thru the worlds then wouldnt the unravellers job be more important?! ...
as for whoever mention everyone being in the right place at the right time?! that is woven by the song and landors interference. BUT MOSTLY WINDS!!!!! come on the little bits where wind takes solen (During sleep/dreams) and makes him help ppl in glynna own world to allow for the correct thing to come to pass?! like with the lady that is convinced by solen to heep her baby, and so glynna decides to save/help/keep alive the fienna!? it is not just right place right time - it was MADE to be that way.
now for the legendsong/unraveller marks...everything is for both...im sure ive posted this before..but meh...ill try it again :P (its prob right up the frount somewhere)
Half-blind yet seeing all -ember: half silver bind, but has true visions. (can also refer to her blindness from the tumor)
-glynna: half blind refering to her inability to hear music. this can make her able to see all as she isnt 'tampered' by the song of the making. but she also has visions (trueness in them too)
who is marked by visioning yet without Darkfall mark
-ember: well she visions and she is half silver blind
-glynna: visions (and contains truth) but has no marking wat so ever!
who lives, yet sings the deathsong
-ember: obviously talking about her tumor. whether meaning that will bring about her death or the fact that the tumor gave rise to her 'mean' twin that resembles the chaos spirit and is there for the death song. (being connected with chaos as that will destroy keltor)
-glynna: argh i cant think of it at the moment. but i think it had something to do with her task...as the task is the death song. like all the bad luck glynna has experienced and lonelyness that seems to accumpany her. as her 'flying arrow' may miss the mark...meh i cant member this one! min?!?! i know u did this...can u help out?!?!
who is born, yet not of the song of making - this is obvious for both..as they are both not born in the songs world...but as a thought what if embers great musical talent actually makes her of the song?! doesnt anyone else find it absolutely amazing - her increadible ability at the young age of 17! and that all her songs contain the faint glimmer of hope - of the song!?!!(im sure the hope is refered to the song by ronnal?!)
who is gifted from the great waters - again very obvious. both were
who is crowned in bright flames...
-ember: red hair; lookin like an ember ready to be snuffed out but for her firey red hair.
-glynna: blonde hair that is also of flame. pg267 (on on this thread pg1 near the bottom)..and megana i like ur point about it referin to her spirit!
hmmm crap ive forgotten wat else i wanted to write....ooo no ive got it. ok what if hella is the shadowman?! she knows she is more improtant -like she has mentioned to us that we should stop treatin her like excess baggage, that she too has a part/task to complete. that was on the ship or in the formalkin (sp/) hall/room dont member which one. so what is her task?! why is she there?! what if solen is talkin on board the public face to keep her hidden and since she is his sister he can organise things like resues/etc...im sure everyone knows solen because of his father. that much has been made evident. plus he was looked upon as being the wing cheiftan or even the chieftan of athanca (sp?). so of course, being how politically driven keltor is, it isnt unlikely ppl would no of him. he is the best! do not forget that.... as a side note hes sooooooo gorgeous anyway but definately being the shadowman makes him more so ...and kayt *coughsolencough* i think we have a argument to start up again!
what if the fact that glynna is constantly mistaken for myrodum because of her role as embers protector. so wat if that was jsut to get her traing for hte battle...and nothin more..she will find her self and this task will make her notice she isnt needed to look after ember. since ember has been left alone til now. plus i think ember will die. ...oo and that reminds me, no she wont come round to blyed. if she survives she'll be a visionweaver and unable to go to blyed.
i did have one more point but its gone...*sigh* im thinkin too much ;) :P anyway ppl u have all made really good points! i love it! keep it coming!!!! plz!!!! oo and do argue me to pieces...but bring out points/facts for it!:) ;) i no i dont have many..but i have had quotes up before :P ehehehe...anyway megana...ur final verdict?! oc or ls?! ;)
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:20pm
My final verdict, huh? ooooo, that's a tough one. I think I like Ober more for it's characters, and for the whole futureistic post apocolyptic world, but I think I like Legendsong more for it's storyline. *pouts* can't you ask me something easy? I can't choose!
But anyway, I'm not going to argue with what you said, cos I have nothing to come back with. :P
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:21pm
lol! me make it easy for u! :P heheh its ok! wat u said is how i feel too...but yeah...*sigh* good to hear you enjoyed it! and soooo glad you cant argue with me just yet! :P ;) but im sure ull think of somethiN!
Ahhh, give me time. I'm sure that I'll think of something! But I did totally love it! I think I read Darksong quicker than I read Darkfall, cos I just couldn't put it down!
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:21pm
*gives big hug* soo sooooooooo soooooooooooo good to hear! and dont worry i will give u time! im contin on it so i have time to re-read it all ;) and i was the same as u. darksong faster then darkfall! :P
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:22pm
I also read Darksong faster then Darkfall but I had to re-read Darkfall first before reading the other one cause I couldn't remember what had happened...
Hella being the shadowman is an interesting point... To tell you the truth I'd never thought of anybody as being the actual shadowman when I was reading the books... I just assumed that it was a mysterious unknown figure like the Salamander... But thats just me.
Most people think that Solen is the shadowman but Hella would fit better... It's something that he would do for his sister to protect her. Cause Hella seems to know all of the important people as well like Duran and Donald...
But if you go into all these points and anaylise them over and over and investigate indepth then aren't you not going against the Song?... Like if the song makes everything seem like a coincidence and that it is happening at the right place at the right time, then by anaylising all these points aren't you speculating that in fact the answers hidden and different from the rest of the story...
AAHHH it's so hard to explain what I'm trying to say... But surely if everything eles that happens in the story is right in front of you face then the answers to these questions should be right there as well...
If you understand what I'm saying... your as crazy as me! ::) :P
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:23pm
If all of the answers are right in front of our faces, then Solen is the Shadowman, cos it's just so obvious. But eh, I'm bias cos I love Solen. :P
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:23pm
Yeah so what I'm saying is that solen is the shadowman, Ember is the unraveller, Glynna is the soulsaver etc, etc... and everything is as it seems, without discussion... Surely that would fit with the rest of the story?!
...Maybe...
::) :P ::)
welll there u go! i completely understand what u are saying, and *smack* yes that would be so. but what is to say that there isnt underlaying currnets that are as obvious but not as in ur face?! like dames is love for elf?! if u get wat i mean...but i think glynna uve just undone everythin ive thought!:P tho i still stick to my guns...but i am likein hella as the shadowman ...need to think bout that more...
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:28pm
I'm not asking you to abondon your guns (where would the fun be in that!) but the whole thing came to me after I read your observations and I want to share it...
Your right I still think that not EVERYTHING is in your face but Somebody started to throw around ideas like Tarsin being the shadowman and other theories and I'm just starting to think that maybe those sorts of ideas are just too far out to considered for this story...
:P ::)
lol - i no. and it makes sense but some of the idea i dont think are too far fetched...*sigh* its a VERY valid point tho!
Tis a very valid point. I think we're all just used to theorizing about Obernewtyn, where lots of stuff is hidden, and not so obvious.
19 years ago
Fri Jun 05 2009, 10:29pm
Um, just finished Darksong, lots of theories here we go ...
-Solens gonna be on Iridom as soon as Glynn gets a chance is gonna be whisked away!
-Tarsin is gonna leave Ramidan. Alene Had already left. Feyt is with Coralyn. Huge war ... on Darkfall!!! That's where Solen + Glynn fall off the cliff ... *sob* :"(
-Ember is gonna be healed. Anyone think that she could undergo the Darkfall process after she is fully blind (which she will be) and become soulweaver??
-Solen is Shadowman dammit. Hella should have been informed of Glynn's drugging is she was, so she isn't. Rememba how cheezed she was @ GLynn??
-May Ember and Glynn have 2 sacrifice themselves 2 get the Unykorn free?
-In a segue bit, In the end of Darksong, Ronaall says something like this ...
"Many of the blonde sister's paths have been terminated or destroyed to stop her achieving her full brightness and beauty."
freaky! What the help does that mean?? Wind is protecting her from the Chaos spirit. But we know she has a brightness, but whoa that sounds cool!
Anyone have ne other weird theories like this??
fierydragon
That bit that Ronaal says basically means that some outside force has been stopping Glynn from reaching her full potential in her world, to aviod the Chaos spirit noticing her. She has been made ordinary, and therefore, invisible.
Er, Megana, Glynna is still not normal. She has the feinna powers, and also, listen to what Duran said ...
"It is hard to believe that she could live in the midst of such evil and not be tainted"
Huh!