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  Through both Darkfall and Darksong you cant help but get the feeling that Unys is less than happy with Kerd, yet she allows herself to be handfasted to him. The strange part however, is Glynna's obeservation at their handfasting.
  
  

  Peculiarly, her feinna senses detected nothing at all from Unys, but she had no time to wonder at this

  Pg. 716 Darksong.
  
  My first assumption (being that the handfasting is Coralyn's plan) is that she has been given an Iridomi poison/potion to stop her from revealing her dislike of Kerd.
  
  What else do people think could be behind this?
  
  I dont know why, but I think this fact might be important somewhere down the track....maybe :P
  
  
   
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  i agree with, i remember reading that, but i'd forgotten. i definetly think that it will become important later on, otherwise she probably wouldn't have wrote it :P
  i think that your reason sounds good, but i also think that Kerd is so in love with her, that he wouldn't need a potion to deceive him!
  good picking up on that though :D im starting to think now HAHA
   
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  Now that you mention it, drugs sound very plausible. During my reading though, I'd assumed that she'd been very forcibly and severely 'put in her place' so to speak by Coralyn. As though her spirit had been broken. It is suggested somewhere in the book that the life bond was Coralyn's idea, but mayhap it actually was Unys's. Perhaps it was a last resort to try to stop the betrothal from happening - it wouldn't upset her 'mother', but would tempt Fulig to rage and forbid the match, possibly causing Kerd to withdraw his offer. I mean, I don't think we saw Unys between Kerd offering life bond and it being reduced again to a year long marriage contract, she might have been just as upset then.
  I thought that she was just so miserable about the idea and felt so trapped that she had resigned herself to it and through despair reached indifference of a kind (explaining why Glynn didn't feel anything). Didn't the watcher say that indifference is reached first through despair?
  
  Still, drugs would be a much more simple solution and therefore more likely. It's a good idea.
   
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  The idea that Glynna could feel nothing of Unys' feelings made me think that whatever it was, was powerful enough to make her seem empty of...anything. It could just be her emotional state, but I thought there would at least be a small inkling of despair if that's what she felt.
  
  I did wonder to, if later in the story Unys would eventually go against Coralyn. It seems so excessive to drug (if that's what happened) someone who is already obeying you, unless Unys is becoming a little more aware of what Coralyn is about, and isnt as willing to go along. Or it could be any number of things.... I really am grasping at straws :P
   
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  I agree that it seems plausible that Unys was starting to go against Coralyn, so she was drugged to make her obedient - that was my thinking as well. But I think the drugs are actually a blind, to stop us picking up on what's really happening.
  
  I think the reason Glynna couldn't feel anything from Unys was in fact NOT because of the drugs, but because the feinn-bane bracelet was affecting her feinna senses. (This is the bracelet Kerd gifted Unys at the handfasting ceremony.) The reason I thought of this was because of the strong connection between the names, and because Unys was given the bracelet BEFORE Glynna arrived, so we have no way to tell if Glynna would have sensed anything from her earlier. (I went to start explaining this theory in greater detail, but it's getting rather long, so I think I'll need to make a new thread, or do it in my next post. :P)
  
  I tried to ask Isobelle about the feinn-bane bracelet at Convergence in 2007, but I didn't phrase my question very well (it was kind of vague), and she said she couldn't answer it - it's possible this was because she would have had to say too much and give something else away, but it's also possible that I was onto something. I wish I knew which it was! :P
   
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  That's a brilliant idea! After all, the next book is Darkbane. That bracelet could be far more significant that we thought.
   
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  I never actually thought of that. I think I competely glossed over the feinn-bane bracelet (seriously need that re-read now :P ). I guess that could be the counter to Glynna's ability, much like the Demon bands in the OC's. I just cant help this niggle that there is something else I missed :(
  
   
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  Yeah, me too. When I first read about the bracelet, I thought the name was just symbolic ie; fienna mate for life so a fein-bane bracelet symbolises a love that lasts forever and then I gave it no further thought whatsoever...which, of course, usually means that something is very important :|
   
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  My point exactly. ;D (Though I guess it could be a double blind, in that we're meant to think there's more to it than drugs, when really there's not. :P)
  
  

  After all, the next book is Darkbane. That bracelet could be far more significant that we thought.

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  The title was indeed the other thing that made me realise it might be significant.
  
  I probably should make a new thread about feinn-bane, and stop hijacking Ari's thread. (Sorry about that!) I guess what we need to consider is WHY Coralyn would have drugged Unys. Did she not want to bond with Kerd? Or was there something darker afoot? Maybe she overheard Coralyn plotting against Fulig, and would have been going to warn him?
  
  I suspect the reason Glynna felt nothing at all from Unys was because something was blocking her feinna senses. It's just hard to imagine a drug stopping anyone from feeling altogether - I'd think they'd be more likely to numb someone's senses, but so that Glynna would still have been able to pick something up. If she was drugged, it's probably a side effect though - I don't see the point behind intentionally blocking someone from feeling anything.
   
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  and stop hijacking Ari's thread.

  
  No, no. Please, hijack away. I really like this theory!
  
  I think the main reason I had for Coralyn drugging Unys was to make sure she went through with the ceremony and was compliant enough that there was never any doubt about the authenticity of her betrothal to Kerd (a show for Fulig?) . I half expected some sort of spoilt tantrum from her.... but now the Feinn-bane theory is out there I wonder if something simple was made to sound more sinister by my brain :P
  
   
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  OOoo, I love this thread!!
  
  Unys' compliance at the wedding also got me thinking. My first thought, like Ariadne, is that she was drugged by Coralyn. I think this is the most obvious theory.
  But, I had totally forgotten about the feinn-bane bracelet!
  
  I really hate Unys in the book, but it would be great if she came to her senses and stood up to Coralyn. Maybe she will fall in love with someone else and that will prompt her to stop pretending that she wants to be with Kerd. (sorry, going off topic now) ~:|
   
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  While we're exploring the possibility of Unys being drugged, we need to cocider that she may have drugged herself. Perhaps to make sure she went through with it after she said she would?
   
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  That is a very sneaky thought you have there, but she would need to be very afraid of the consequences of not doing what she was told to go that far...actually, in this context, I wonder what Coralyn spoke to Unys about when she was "baulking at her role again" (pg651)
   
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  That is a very sneaky thought you have there, but she would need to be very afraid of the consequences of not doing what she was told to go that far...actually, in this context, I wonder what Coralyn spoke to Unys about when she was "baulking at her role again" (pg651)
  

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  I think that quote is why it's so easy to believe she's been drugged by Coralyn. But you have to wonder what exactly Unys's role is meant to be - I'm sure it goes beyond bonding with Kerd. We know Coralyn's smart enough now to not force someone to disobey the rules of the Wavespeakers, so I suspect it relates to her plot against Fulig. Perhaps Coralyn was planning to use Unys somehow?
   
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  Yes, I think we're meant to assume it was just a ploy to bring Fulig there, but if that were the case Unys wouldn't need to go through with anything because Fulig would already be coming to Ramidan. She could just sit in her room and sulk until he got there and then Coralyn does her thing and shoves him into her magnificent trap of doom...
  
  [sub](ok, maybe I made that last bit up)[/sub] ~:|