As requested, the current Bookcase/Library of Obernet (where you submit Authors, books and reviews) has been expanded (/redesigned) to allow the additional submitting of Music, TV Shows, Films, Games, and Recipes.
The area is (for the moment) called the Bookshelf; however I believe final naming of the section will be voted upon in the Library message board over the coming weeks.
To access the new section, click the Bookshelf link on the left menu, or, click here.
How to Submit Content to the Bookshelf
Step 1: Browse the current entries. If the book/tv show/film/game/artist/recipe already exists in the list, do not re-add them. Rather, click on the existing entry, and add your own review by posting a Comment.
Step 2: If you are sure the entry doesn't exist in the category you want to post in, click the icon.
Step 3: Submit the Title, Details and Notes (details below).
Title
For books, the Title should be "Book Title" by "Author Surname, Author Firstname: Book Title", eg. Carmody, Isobelle: The Farseekers.
For Music, the Title should be "Artist name", eg. Silverchair.
For TV Shows, the Title should be "Show name", eg. Top Gear.
For Movies, the Title should be "movie title", eg. Serenity.
For Games, the Title should be the "game name", eg. Wii Fit
For Recipes, the Title should be the "recipe name", eg. Pumpkin Soup
For bands, movies, tv shows and games starting with "The", try to remember to trail the "The". That is, if your entry to the music section was going to be "The Kaiser Chiefs", the Title would be "Kaiser Chiefs, The". It is just a more effective filing method
Description This is - obviously - for information to describe your submission. Don't just copy blurbs from books or the back of DVDs; describe the entry in your own words. Anything that looks like it's been copied and pasted from Wikipedia won't be approved. For recipes, a list of Ingredients, and then a Method is what you should submit. Description is usually where you would put images, as well. To prevent stretching and not hinder people's download limits/speeds, we need to impose a maximum image size restriction; 300 pixels by 300 pixels. As always, if you have trouble resizing your image, please consult Image Help. IMPORTANT! DO NOT HOTLINK YOUR IMAGE. That is, do not copy the link of the location that the image exists on someone elses website. ALWAYS save the image, reload it into an image host such as photobucket, and link from there. Hotlinked images often fail when linked to, so you may as well not even bother.
Notes: This is for extra information or anecdotes about the entry.
For Books, it may be information such as "Terry Pratchett based the city of Ankh Morpork on London" (but, not that boring ).
For Music, it may be information such as albums, interesting songs, etc.
For TV Shows and Movies, it may be a list of characters and the actors that play them, or interesting information about the writers or directors.
For Games, it may be how many million copies it sold, who characters were based on, which design company won which awards for work on it, etc.
For Recipes, it may be any hints or extra notes you'd like to add as a general rule for the recipe (such as 'I found organic spinach worked much better', or even suggestions on other meals or drinks to accompany it.
Formatting Articles All the standard UBBC icons are available; format as though you're formatting a post on the message boards (this includes the posting of images). For a guide on how to use UBBC, click here.
Submitting Submissions will ALL be screened before being added to the Bookshelf. This is to ensure: a) That entries aren't duplicated (accidents happen), or contain bad language/spelling/grammar, and, b) That entries receive the points they're entitled to. It's much easier for the mods to keep track of if they have to manually approve entries and add them to the Pointage Tally.
Pointage Points will be awarded in a similar way to the old Bookcase with a key change: 2 points per article submitted, for a maximum of 20 points. There will be no more points awarded for reviews. This is because submitting a review of a subject should be because a user wants to, not because they'll get points for doing so.
To submit a review Post a comment under the article you want to review. Make it as long/short as you want, but for the love of Lud, make it meaningful! That is, no posting comments/reviews along the line of
OMGZ!1! I LUVS that story!! :roll::roll:
Reviews of this nature will be deleted. The comment reviews are intended for information that may help a potential reader or viewer to decide whether they'd like the show/book, etc. Reviews of the above nature don't achieve that. Feel free to post your opinions, but put some depth behind them and make them coherent.
What about the old Library/Bookcase submissions? They've been added to the Books section. The formatting is a little different, but we endeavor to update this over time.
Hope you enjoy the new system. It's designed similarly to the Theories Archives, and the Encyclopedia, so if you've used those areas of the site before you'll be familiar with the workflow. It also gives us much more room for expansion - the old system didn't allow categories of any kind - this one does. If we want more categories, you can request them below as well. Any questions? Fire away.
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Guild: Dreamweavers Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8731
On the old system, the Description section (or how I interpretted it) was for the Blurb, and then the main content (what people wanted to read) was the review. Are you saying we should ditch the blurb altogether, and when you submit the book you should only describe what it's about, or is it like the old review where you say that you liked it and why etc? Or are you meant to do both?
Eg:
Serenity - Serenity carries on from the TV show Firefly etc
OR
Serenity - I totally love this movie, the fight scenes are great etc
OR
Serenity - Serenity carries on from the TV show Firefly. I totally love this movie, the fight scenes are great etc
Also, a completely different question, for a series that doesn't have the series name in the title, should we put it in so that they get grouped together? Especially for Movies (as books are under the same author). So, should I go James Bond: Casino Royale or just Casno Royale? That way all the James Bond movies will group together, rather than Casino Royale being under C and Quantum of Solace being under Q.
For books: more the third option. We don't want to just copy blurbs from books/wikipedia. Make the description factual, but more personalised - if you were asked to describe it to a friend in your own words.
It'd be good if series could be grouped together. In the James Bond example, I'd definitely put the "James Bond:" at the beginning of it because it not only groups them, but helps identify them at first glance.
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Guild: Dreamweavers Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8731
I'd say you definitely need to include the kind of music they make (so, are they a rock band or a country and western singer or whatever) and why you think other people should listen to it. Other things that might be good could be if they've had any number 1s or really famous songs, some other bands you think are similar, maybe if you think their old / new music is different / better / worse, what is your favourite album or song of theirs, if they've ever changed band members, if they're famous for something else (eg Kylie on Neighbours) etc.
I think a list of albums would be good for the notes section, and maybe a list of their best known songs as well as any anecdotes.
Some other stuff I'd be interested to know might be have they played for the Queen or at the Olympics or been in some sort of scandal etc. Don't spend years looking for this kind of stuff though! The more important stuff is what kind of music they play and why you like it.
To clarify: Description for any of the categories is what you personally think of it. Think of how you would describe their music to a friend, if you wanted to recommend they go out and buy their album, bookworm. Notes section is for trivia, discography, etc.
Just wanted to post that I've updated the "How to earn points for your guild" to show the pointage now earn-able for your submissions.
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Just want to highlight, the pointage's been updated again, after we realised how many potential points were up for grabs:
"Submit an article (be it book, tv show, movie, game or artist) points: 5 maximum of 5 submissions per category
That is to say, you can submit as many as you like, but you will only receive points for the first 5 books you submit and the first 5 tv shows you submit and the first 5 movies you submit...etc. Minimum 200 words, with a suggested maximum of 500 - thats 200 words of quality and not rubbish - to the discretion of the Bookshelf Moderators."
We also need to impose an image size restriction for any images linked to in your article; maximum of 300 px by 300 px at the moment. Any images bigger than this will have to have the img tags removed so they don't stretch the page. I'm adding this info to the top of the page.
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Guild: Wanderers Location: The Bookshelf Posts: 24859
For your information (in case anyone didn't see the post in the Library), the pointage page has been updated with the end points for the Bookcase and the current points for the Bookshelf
I'm having trouble submitting to the Books section - i filled in details for the title, details and notes but it doesn't seem to be showing up?? If anyone knows what's wrong, i've missed something or i need to fill something in differently please tell me
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Guild: Dreamweavers Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8731
Hi Evana
It's a manual process getting the entries to show up, Lioness (and possibly others now, I'm not sure) reads through all the entires to make sure they adhere to the guidelines, are in the right section, contain appropriate material etc. Once she's done that, it'll appear in the list.
Lioness is often fantastic and very quick at doing this, but like all of us she gets busy. If it hasn't gone up after, say, two weeks you could PM her to see if it went through properly and she's just been busy, or if there was a problem and it didn't work.
Guild: Dreamweavers Location: Australia Posts: 2512
Hopefully Cat and Schis are right, and it's just waiting to be checked.
I got the impression that another reason it wouldn't come up would be if the book you're writing up is already in the Bookshelf, because they don't have multiple entries for books - if a book already exists, you can write a review as a comment, but not make a new entry for the book.
And I agree with Cat - well done for submitting to the Bookshelf! I hope you can get it sorted out soon!
Click here for a list of Isobelle Carmody's books.
Or if you're interested in writing a character profile for one of your favourite characters from Obernewtyn, the Legendsong, Scatterlings or another IC book/series, click here.
Oh that's good, thanks for all the advice . . . and uh, i got got quite worried so i tried submitting it again . . . . . . yeah, so, i hope Lioness doesn't have too much trouble with the multiple entries . . .
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'Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.'
Guild: Wanderers Location: The Bookshelf Posts: 24859
Hello Evana,
At the moment, I'm the only one checking the submissions to the bookshelf. It's not that demanding lol, and most of the time i approve things quickly but as Cat-Eyes said, real life gets in the way.
Multiple entries are fine, just tell me which one you want submitted (as theyre all slighly different) and I'll simply delete the others
Hi everyone! The Author list from the old Bookcase has been added to the Bookshelf (quite a few of the entries don't have any info against them, though - I think they were added so books could be added from those authors in the old system). If you see an author that has a 'blank' entry, then feel free to PM some information for that entry and we can update it. There'll be no points awarded for updating an author, as info the info generally will be copied/pasted info from a website and not the submitter's own work (unless you personally know the author you're updating and can write the info yourself - by all means, go for it!). Since the Authors were the last thing to come across, I've removed the Bookcase link from the left menu, also.
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authors: you get two points per author, for a maximum of 10 points (therefore you only get points for the first 5 authors you submit but you're welcome to submit more )
books: you get two points per book, for a maximum of 20 points (meaning only get points for the first 10 books you submit, again, you can definitely submit more - i have recently introduced a bonus five points when you hit a submission of 100 books
reviews: you get 5 points per review - subject to my discretion and whether or not it fits the minimum requirements - and there's no limit yes, you can submit a review to a book that is already in the Bookcase, whether or not you submitted the book in the first place. Yes, you can submit a review to a book that already has a review, both reviewers will be listed (there are a few such cases already )
Does that answer all the questions? You're welcome to ask more
Guild: Dreamweavers Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8731
That's the old system though, isn't it? It's been replaced when we updated to have more sections (movies, recipes, TV shows etc as well as Books) to instead be:
Maximum of 5 submissions per category That is to say, you can submit as many as you like, but you will only receive points for the first 5 books you submit and the first 5 tv shows you submit and the first 5 movies you submit...etc. Minimum 200 words, with a suggested maximum of 500 - thats 200 words of quality and not rubbish - to the discretion of the Bookshelf Moderators.
Guild: Dreamweavers Location: wishing she was by the sea <3 <3 <3 Posts: 1488
Oops- Erm, I just realised that I submitted information on the band rather than my opinion. Is it possible for me to edit it so I have an opinion as well without losing all the info I found?
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With entries for the recipe section, does it need to be our own recipe? Or is it ok to submit something we found in a book and have modified/have extensive notes on?
Guild: Wanderers Location: The Bookshelf Posts: 24859
Yep, MK has it right there
The main thing I think is submitting a recipe you yourself have tried - in the notes you can type problems, suggestions, things you might do differently. Cooking is always an experiment and sharing the highs and lows of those experiments is enjoyable for all.
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