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  She wasn't mentioned a whole lot in TSK but we know at the end of the book that she is missing and that somehow 'fate' has to bring her to the LOTRQ.
  
  What do you guys think, has Dragon started remembering...
  
  What is she doing and how will she end up in the LOTRQ, why would she go rogue... could she have been kidnapped...
   
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  What I want to know is why noone seemed to care! Someone mentions that she ran away, and then they all just forget about her. Perhaps her memory is coming back and she is retracing her steps - her last conscious thoughts were in Sutrium..
  
  WAIT!!!!!!! she was found in the ruins where ines is- what if that isn't coincidence - the SEntinel is in her home country - perhaps there is some link! It's a long shot, but it can't quite be ignored...she might even know the password Dell is trying to get around to get into the missing levels!
   
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  Good theory Nef! However, Dragon was very young when the shipfish brought her to the Land.
  
  Hang on though: Where did she get to see a picture of a Dragon that she uses to scare people away? Elspeth mentions a dragon she found in one of the books in the underground complex. It is entriely possible that Dragon managed to get inside somehow. She hadn't awoken Ines though, as Dell did that after they arrived there.
   
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  Maybe there's another entrance - i remember reading that they had to dig the door out - and Elspeth thinks Dragon got the image from her mind - although how she got in there....
  
  She might have been very young, but she has the memory - it still exists (she buried it behind the block, remember) Perhaps she'll hop a shipfish back home |;)
   
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  Dragon used to disappear for short times to go see her animal friends at Obernewtyn...other than that, people have usually been really worried when she's gone missing, so yes -WHY did no one look for her? Poor little mite.
  I'd like to think that she's been driven by her part in the quest, or similar, but I doubt it; Dragon just follows her heart most of the time. I'm sure the gypsies would recognise her if she was on her own, what if they've picked her up and try to take her back to LotRQ? Maybe Dragon's also part of the ancient promises...
  ...but before I get carried away with no proof whatsoever :P ...
   
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  I also wondered why no one seemed to be too worried that Dragon had gone missing. I know that The Stone Key and The Sending were originally written as one book and some events were rearranged to split it into two books... it seems obvious that the repercussions of her going missing are in the second book, so perhaps the mention of her going missing was accidentally left in the first book... or perhaps the editor felt there ought to be a mention of it at least, without really going into it.
  
  We know that the Keeping Place for one of the keys is in Dragon's mind, and it has something to do with the grave in the Red Queen's Land. So she definitely knows something but I would bet it has more to do with accessing the Sentinel than accessing Ines.
   
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  We know that the Keeping Place for one of the keys is in Dragon's mind, and it has something to do with the grave in the Red Queen's Land. So she definitely knows something but I would bet it has more to do with accessing the Sentinel than accessing Ines.
  

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  I thought that Ines and the Sentinel were, if not the same thing, at least linked in some way, so doesn't it come down to the same thing?
  
  I think I've said this before, somewhere, but Isobelle Carmody does not make characters go missing for no reason. Darga's disappearance (and eventual return) is an important trigger that gets Elspeth's quest to destroy the weaponmachines going. Daffydd wanders in and out of the plot, and always reappears at important points in the plot. Rushton's disappearance drove the plot of TKP. And as for Domick... *sobs*
  
  In fact, now that I think it, the plot of most of the books is driven by a disappearance of some kind: Rushton in TKP, Domick in TSK, Matthew in Ashling, Jik in TF (the last two are stretching it). This probably means that Dragon's will be the 'plot-driving disappearance' in TS.
  
  I like that. It has a neat kind of symmetry. Now, if I could just figure out what it all *meant*...
   
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  Thats a good point about the disappearances. Also Ariel disappeared in Obernewtyn.
  
  Though Domick had disappeared in TKP with Rushton. Dragon wnet missing in TSK. I wonder if we'll have anyone else go missing in TS to complete the set?
   
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  Though Domick had dissapeared in TKP with Rushton. Dragon wnet missing in TSK. I wonder if we'll have anyone else go missing in TS to complete the set?

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  Yeah, that's a good point, actually, although in both these cases, the impact of their disappearances doesn't seem to have sunk in during the book in which they disappear. (Does this make sense?) In TKP, people worry much more about Rushton's disappearance, with Domick thrown in almost like an afterthought. Of course, his disappearance *is* important, but IC seems to be distracting readers and making them focus on Rushton. The same thing happens in TSK, with Dragon, which leads me to think that she'll be brought back in in a very prominent way in The Sending.
   
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  If dragon was Last accounted for in sutrium, does anyone think that the soliderguard that recognised her could have get her
   
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  That was definitely one of my thoughts Jessie.
  But would the soldierguard captain still have his freedom in the land after the rebellion?
  As to where Dragon got the dragon image from remember when Elspeth goes into her mind in TKP the gate-keeper is holding a staff with a dragon on it, isn't he?
  
  
   
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  Um about the image dragon projected back in TF
  

  I shook my head. 'I'm not so sure they did appear. Remember when I told you the second face she made looked like that lizard creature I saw on the edge of the map where it said "Here be dragons"? The more I think of it the more sure I am that it was exactly the same face. And the first face was nothing more than a distorted human face. I think she read those things out of my mind and somehow projected them into all our minds..." (The Farseekers, pp. 202, 3rd Edition)

   
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  That was definitely one of my thoughts Jessie.
  But would the soldierguard captain still have his freedom in the land after the rebellion?
  As to where Dragon got the dragon image from remember when Elspeth goes into her mind in TKP the gate-keeper is holding a staff with a dragon on it, isn't he?
  
  
  

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  Yeah you're right he wouldn't have been able to act as a soldierguard I suppose but there are a million possible plot devices which could render him able to get her, he didn't seem the sort to be easily captured. The other thing i guess we need to take into account is what motive Dragon could have for removing herself from the Misfits, that's why i think she's remembered something...
  
  it's one of those things
   
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  What exactly do you think she's remembered? The last time she went to Sutrium, or bits from her past with her Mum?
  
  As to motivations...
  Maybe she ran away to avoid seeing Elspeth again. Although, her attachment to Kella, and others probably makes that unlikely.
  
  Maybe she runs away simply because she finds being around so many people in Sutrium really hard to deal with.
  
  The question is where will she be when she's found again? Perhaps in the Red Land.
  
  Yeah there must be a million ways for that particular soldierguard to have avoided imprisonment and got to Dragon somehow.
  
  Ahh so many questions!
  
  
  
   
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  I think they'll find her before journeying to the LotRQ
   
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  I agree with Dark One i believe they will find Dragon and Elspeth will be the one to deliver her to LOTRQ and then get the sign from the grave markers.
   
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  Is there a possibility that someone (Ariel, for example) is already in the process of bringing Dragon to LotRQ? Ariel always seems to be two steps ahead of Elspeth, and getting Dragon in his clutches would be a smart move (and, sadly, let's face it, Ariel seems to be good at the smart moves...)
   
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  thats a good thought but how would Ariel get Dragon? It wouldn't be possible to take her onto a ship because no ships would be coming to Sutrium.. unless Dragon somehow got over the other side of the Suggredon (apologies for spelling mistakes) which is unlikely.. I think she is still somewhere around Sutrium.. as to where who knows? maybe the Soliderguard is just a civilian now and managed to capture her and is keeping her hidden for some reason